Diana Walsh Pasulka: Aliens, Technology, Religion & the Nature of Belief | Lex Fridman Podcast #149

Diana Walsh Pasulka is a professor of philosophy and religion at UNCW and author of American Cosmic: UFOs, Religion, and Technology. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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“How many alien civilizations are out there?” video:

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Diana’s Website: https://uncw.edu/par/faculty/faculty-pasulka.html
American Cosmic (book): https://amzn.to/3aK2kaj

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OUTLINE:
0:00 – Introduction
2:03 – What is real?
7:32 – Can beliefs become reality?
12:34 – Donald Hoffman
16:33 – Immanuel Kant’s Critique of Pure Reason
20:02 – Ayn Rand
27:00 – How do religions start?
42:13 – Religion is an evolutionary advantage
47:34 – Religion used in propaganda
52:07 – What did Nietzsche mean by “God is Dead”?
57:34 – American Cosmic
1:01:20 – What do aliens look like?
1:10:03 – History of space programs
1:13:06 – Jacques Vallee
1:22:31 – Artificial intelligence
1:28:00 – Ufology community
1:39:13 – Psychedelics
1:43:10 – Tic Tac UFO
1:51:44 – Roswell UFO incident
2:02:49 – Bob Lazar
2:06:25 – Monoliths in the desert
2:17:14 – Humans will co-evolve with AI
2:20:33 – Neuralink
2:25:23 – Singularity
2:35:14 – Books: Nietzsche
2:40:20 – Books: Hannah Arendt
2:45:18 – Fear of death
2:49:46 – Meaning of life

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  1. Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast.
    0:00 – Introduction & sponsor mentions:
    – LMNT: https://drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free shipping
    – Grammarly: https://grammarly.com/lex to get 20% off premium
    – Business Wars: https://wondery.com/business-wars/
    – Cash App: https://cash.app/ and use code LexPodcast to get $10
    2:03 – What is real?
    7:32 – Can beliefs become reality?
    12:34 – Donald Hoffman
    16:33 – Immanuel Kant's Critique of Pure Reason
    20:02 – Ayn Rand
    27:00 – How do religions start?
    42:13 – Religion is an evolutionary advantage
    47:34 – Religion used in propaganda
    52:07 – What did Nietzsche mean by "God is Dead"?
    57:34 – American Cosmic
    1:01:20 – What do aliens look like?
    1:10:03 – History of space programs
    1:13:06 – Jacques Vallee
    1:22:31 – Artificial intelligence
    1:28:00 – Ufology community
    1:39:13 – Psychedelics
    1:43:10 – Tic Tac UFO
    1:51:44 – Roswell UFO incident
    2:02:49 – Bob Lazar
    2:06:25 – Monoliths in the desert
    2:17:14 – Humans will co-evolve with AI
    2:20:33 – Neuralink
    2:25:23 – Singularity
    2:35:14 – Books: Nietzsche
    2:40:20 – Books: Hannah Arendt
    2:45:18 – Fear of death
    2:49:46 – Meaning of life

  2. Belief is an evolutionary outcome of life's (and dna's) inability to see future with certainty. When we lack evidence, our mind simulates what is hiding around the corner. DNA and adaptability itself is useful for an unknowable future. Life is reactive and deterministic.

  3. I don't know why but Ms Pasulka come across, to me, as a mix of Melissa McCarthy and Rosanne with a little bit of Ricky Lake thrown in

  4. additionally, money incentive often acts as something that over-rides human (natural) incentive… for example overcoming ones interest to do the right thing, often financial incentives over take the moral high ground (hurting others, destroying natural habitats, etc.). also it accompanies power (money and power tend to go hand in hand), and this can act as either another, and/or additional incentive to do the wrong thing (in an attempt to hold onto, or gain more power). Anyway getting rid of the excessive gains incentive, allows us to pursue things for the personal incentive, and the group incentive (making humanity better)

  5. ‘She said satori has nothin to do with God.’ This is an error as there is nothing that has nothing to do with God. Something and nothing both are part of God and therefore have something to do with this Higher Power. By definition, my definition, there is nothing outside of God.

  6. As I’m listening she seems very influenced by religion rather than consciousness and awareness. Why so much talk about religion, which is a man made concept? I think we are beyond that. What about experiential spirituality? I’ll continue to listen, perhaps I am misunderstanding her.

  7. This woman is AMAZING! This podcast episode was fascinating to a degree that I didn’t previously deem possible. She is very intriguing to listen to! Thanks Lex, I never knew about this woman or her writings before this podcast..

  8. I like this. I read Diana 's book and it speaks to those having had encounters or experience with higher dimensional or frequency vibration Beings. Those who are awakened will understand this interview. Thank you for posting it.

  9. She mentioned that she's is a practicing Catholic while she's talking about myth and religion. Did they go into that? I find it frustrating that Lex didn't want to explore that further.

  10. I hate when people say something is obviously true when there is no way they have proven or no for fact it is truth. They just take a Mother's word for it. Science is their religion. It takes faith.

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