Shabbath or Sun-day, Which should we do?

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  1. Respectfully… FYI… The KJV was not from Latin Vulgate… the New Testament was translated from Greek, the Old Testament was translated from Hebrew text, while the Apocrypha were translated from the Greek and Latin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KJV

  2. You are welcome my friend… Really love your and your wife's videos. Have watched many, but a lot to go.

  3. Thank you! Becase, I am learning more and going to teach kids, we no alot of it, but theres more to learn, i will be teaching kids and family.Shalom

  4. Worship every day, Give thanks every day, pray every day. If you love God with ALL of your heart every day should be his and time should be devoted.

  5. @watchmanreports with reading the comments, should we be using the lunar calendar? I really would like clarification of this. In the meantime I will continue my study on the Shabbat. Thank you.

  6. (Got this from wiki) (Notice how this is in the scriptures of the new testament in The book of romans & corintians etc.. & not in the books of the old testament?..YOUR RIGHT PARTS OF THE SCRIPTURES ARE NOT HOW THEY SHOULD.

    The kiss of peace is a traditional Christian greeting dating to early Christianity.

    The practice remains a part of the worship in traditional churches, including the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Catholic Churches, Eastern Orthodox churches, Oriental Orthodox churches and some liturgical mainline Protestant denominations, where it is often called the kiss of peace, sign of peace, or simply peace or pax. It is practiced as a part of worship in many Anabaptist heritage groups including Old German Baptist Brethren, and Apostolic Christian.

    Matthew 10:26

    So do not fear them; for there is nothing covered that will not be uncovered, or hidden that will not be known.

  7. What bible do you suggest if not the King James please?  Also, I've heard that King James was a Hebrew?  Do you know or have you heard anything on that?

  8. Shalam Ahch I have been studying the Gregorian calendar for a while we can't just get rid of the holidays and still keep the pagan calendar. The  Pope Gregory calendar was design to worship the Sun its a solar calendar. There's a lot of so called Hebrews who teach that the moon doesn't determine the Sabbath because it was created on the fourth day and that the 7 day has never been affected if this was the case then I guess we should throw away the American calendar because the sun was created on the fourth day too. There's a lot of Hebrews that teach that we should keep two calendars the lunar calendar for the new moon and feast days and the solar calendar for the Sabbath.  Historians, evidence both reveal that are forefathers once kept a lunar- solar calendar     Look up the universal Jewish encyclopedia page 410 or type in this address http://www.lunarsabbath.com/uje410.htm                

    To begin with, let’s look at perhaps the most intriguing of recent discoveries. In the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, page 410 under the heading “Holidays”, I quote:
    “1. Sabbath and New Moon (Rosh Hodesh), both periodically recurring in the course of the year. The New Moon is still, and the Sabbath originally was, dependent upon the lunar cycle. Both date back to the nomadic period of Israel. Originally the New Moon was celebrated in the same way as the Sabbath; gradually it became less important, while the Sabbath became more and more a day of religion and humanity, of religious meditation and instruction, or peace and delight of the soul, and produced powerful and beneficent effects outside of Judaism.”

    Let’s examine the above encyclopedic quote a little closer to see what they are really saying.
    (1). The New Moon is still… dependent upon the lunar cycle.
    (2). The Sabbath originally was dependent upon the lunar cycle.
    (3). Originally the New Moon was celebrated in the same way as the Sabbath.
    (4). Gradually it [the New Moon Sabbath] became less important, while the [Saturday — Saturn’s day] Sabbath [after being changed from YAHAWAH'S appointed time according to the lunar cycle as the set apart day of rest] became more and more a day of religion and humanity.

    In an article by John D. Keyser entitled From Sabbath to Saturday: The Story of the Jewish Rest Day Keyser writes:
    “Talking about the time prior to the Diaspora, Hutton Webster tells us that an old and still common theory derives the Sabbath institution from the worship of Saturn after which planet the first day of the astrological week [Saturday] received its designation. The theory is untenable for more than one reason. In the first place the Hebrews did not name their weekdays after the planets, but indicated them by ordinal numbers. In the second place Saturn’s Day [Saturday] began the planetary week, while the Jewish Sabbath was regarded as the last day of the seven, a suitable position for a rest day. And in the third place neither the Hebrews nor any other Oriental people ever worshipped the planet Saturn as a god and OBSERVED HIS DAY AS A FESTIVAL day (Rest Days: A Study in Early Law and Morality. New York: The MacMillan Company. 1916, p. 243).
    "However, in the Diaspora, this soon changed with the influence of the Zoroastrian revival and the Roman planetary week —
    "These imported [from Babylon] superstitions eventually led Jewish rabbis to call Saturn SHABBTI, "the STAR OF THE SABBATH," [and]…it was not until [after] the first century of our era, when the planetary week had become an established institution, THAT THE JEWISH SABBATH SEEMS ALWAYS TO HAVE CORRESPONDED TO SATURN'S DAY [SATURDAY] (ibid., p. 244).
    "The association of the Sabbath Day with Saturday," explains Webster, "was probably one reason why Saturn, a planet in Babylonian astrological schemes regarded as beneficent rather than malefic, should have come to assume in late classical times the role of an unlucky star (sidus tristissimum, stella iniquissima)…Dio Cassius [Roman historian born 155 A.D., died after 230 A.D.] also speaks of the Jews having DEDICATED TO THEIR GOD THE DAY CALLED THE DAY OF SATURN [SATURDAY], 'on which, among many other most peculiar actions, they undertake no serious occupation'…Tacitus [another Roman historian] (Historiae, V, 4) thinks that the Jewish Sabbath may be an observance in honour of Saturn… (Rest Days, p. 244-245).
    "Notes the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia:
    "With the development of the importance of the Sabbath as a day of consecration and the emphasis laid upon the significant number seven, the week became more and more DIVORCED FROM ITS LUNAR CONNECTION…(volume 10, 1943. Article, "Week," p. 482).
    "Also, writes Hutton Webster, 'the establishment of a periodic week ending in a Sabbath observed every seventh day was doubtless responsible for the gradual obsolescence of the NEW MOON FESTIVAL AS A PERIOD OF GENERAL ABSTINENCE, since with continuous weeks the new-moon day and the Sabbath Day would from time to time coincide' (ibid., p. 255).
    "This obsolescence of the New Moon festival is also noted by the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia —
    “However, in the Diaspora the New Moon came to occupy a secondary position in contrast to the Sabbath; the prohibition against work and the carrying on of commerce was LIFTED, and the New Moon, although still celebrated by means of increased offerings, soon was reduced to the rank of a minor or half holiday. Its importance was confined to the fact that it remained of great value and necessity for the fixing of the festivals (volume 8, p. 171. Article "New Moon")
    "Eviator Zerubavel, in his book The Seven Day Circle: The History and Meaning of the Week, observes that the Jewish and astrological weeks evolved quite independently of one another. However, given the coincidence of their identical length, it was only a matter of time before some permanent correspondence between particular Jewish days and particular planetary days would be made. A PERMANENT CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN THE SABBATH AND "THE DAY OF SATURN" WAS THUS ESTABLISHED… later than the first century of the present era, Jews EVEN CAME TO NAME THE PLANET SATURN SHABTAI, AFTER THE ORIGINAL HEBREW NAME OF THE SABBATH, SHABBATH. Moreover, as they came into closer contact with Hellenism, their conception of their holy day was evidently AFFECTED BY THE ASTROLOGICAL CONCEPTION OF SATURN AS A PLANET that has an overwhelming negative influence (a conception which, incidentally, is still evident even from the association of the English word "saturnine" with a gloomy disposition). There are traditional Jewish superstitious beliefs about demons and evil spirits that hold full sway on the Sabbath, and an old Jewish legend even links the choice of "the day of Saturn" as the official Jewish rest day with the superstition that it would be an inauspicious day for doing any work anyway! (New York: The Free Press, 1985, p. 17).
    "Eviator Zerubavel makes some interesting comments and observations on page 11 about the Jews’ departing from YAHAWAH's true Sabbath day; from the reckoning of the lunar phases —
    "…the dissociation of the week from a natural cycle such as the waxing and waning of the moon can be seen as part of a general movement toward introducing a supranatural deity. Not being personified as any particular natural force, the Jewish god was to be regarded as untouched by nature in any way. Accordingly, the day dedicated to this god was to be regarded as part of a divine temporal pattern that transcends even nature itself. That obviously involved dissociating the week from nature and its rhythms. Only by being based on an entirely artificial mathematical rhythm could the Sabbath observance become totally independent of the lunar or any other natural cycle.
    "A continuous seven-day cycle that runs throughout history, paying no attention whatsoever to the moon and its phases, is a distinctly Jewish invention. Moreover, the dissociation of the seven-day week from nature has been one of the most significant contributions of Judaism to civilization. Like the invention of the mechanical clock some 1,500 years later, it facilitates the establishment of what Lewis Mumford identified as "mechanical periodicity," thus essentially increasing the distance between human beings and nature. Quasi [lunar] weeks and [continuous] weeks actually represent two fundamentally distinct modes of temporal organization of human life, the former involving partial adaptation to nature, and the latter stressing total emancipation from it. The invention of the continuous week was therefore one of the most significant breakthroughs in human beings' attempts to break away from being prisoners of nature [and away from YAHAWAH’s laws] and create a social world of their own (The Seven Day Circle, p. 11).
    "On Page 8, Zerubavel further expounds:
    "…the establishment of a seven-day week based on the regular observance of the Sabbath is a distinctively Jewish contribution to civilization…it is crucial to remember that the ancient dwellers of Mesopotamia themselves did not have a real seven-day week [like we know and understand today].…One of the most distinctive features of the [present] week is the fact that it is entirely dissociated from the lunar cycle. It is essentially defined as a precise multiple of the day, quite independently of the lunar month. Quasi [lunar] weeks, on the other hand, are generally defined as rough approximations of fractions of the lunar month, and are appropriately called "lunar weeks" by Francis H. Colson (ibid.)….the indispensability of a continuous week for the establishment of settled life with a high level of social organization, particularly significant since the rise of a market economy, which involved orderly contact on regular recurrent, periodic market days. Only by establishing a weekly cycle of an unvarying, standard length could society guarantee that the continuity of its life would never be interrupted by natural phenomena such as the lunar cycle. The dissociation of the week from the lunar cycle, is, therefore, the most significant breakthrough in the evolution of this cycle from its somewhat rudimentary and imperfect [?] predecessor. Only by defining the week as a precise multiple of the day, rather than…a fraction of the lunar month, could human beings permanently avoid the problem of having to handle loose remainders and, thus, introduce into their lives the sort of temporal regularity that they could never attain with the quasi [lunar] week" (The Seven Day Circle, p. 10).
    The New Schaff-Herzog Religious Encyclopedia takes note of a radical change to the calendar:
    "The association of sabbath rest with the account of creation must have been very ancient among the Hebrews, and it is noteworthy that no other Semitic peoples, even the Babylonians, have any tradition of the creation in six days. It would appear that the primitive Semites had FOUR CHIEF MOONDAYS, probably the first, eighth, fifteenth, and twenty-second of EACH month, CALLED SABBATHS from the fact that there was a tendency to end work before them so that they might be celebrated joyfully. Among the Babylonians these seventh days through astrological conceptions became ill-omened, while the sabbath in the middle of the month was made a day of propitiation, and its name was construed as meaning 'the day for ending the wrath of the gods.' The Israelites, on the other hand, made the sabbaths [as anchored to the moon] the feasts of a living and holy God. The work of man became symbolic of the work of God, and human rest of divine rest, so that the sabbaths became preeminently days of rest. Since, moreover, the LUNAR MONTH had 29 or 30 days, the normal lapse of time between sabbaths was SIX DAYS, although sometimes seven or eight; [at the moonth end only] and six working days were accordingly assigned to the creation, which was to furnish a prototype for human life. The connection of the sabbath with lunar phases, however, was discarded by the Israelites [more specifically, the Jews]…and the weeks were accordingly divorced from the days of the months and were made to follow in succession throughout the year, a more regular correspondence with the week of creation being thus secured. [And an uninterrupted flow of commerce was more appealing] The first lunar day, however, or the day of the new moon, retained, although no longer called sabbath, somewhat of its sabbatical character, so that in the Old Testament it frequently appears as a pendant of the sabbath" (Edited by Samuel Macauley. 1912. Vol. X, pp. 135-136).
    We can certainly see that 7th day Sabbath and the New Moon Sabbath was originally anchored to the lunar phases as YAHAWAH intended. We can see additional resistance to walking YAHAWAH’s ways in the book of Amos. Amos 8:5 saying, "When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat…” They could hardly wait to get back to “business as usual”. Here we see the end of an Israelite/Hebrew moonth and the fact that it was two to three days long. The merchants were clambering to get back to the business of buying and selling. States author Jonathan David Brown, in his book Keeping Yahweh’s Appointments, “It is quite easy to see how flowing with the natural rhythm of the moon cycle would disrupt commercial enterprise. When you're waiting with a truckload of rotting vegetables, who wants to wait for the new moon to be gone? The uninterrupted flow of our current seven-day cycle was thus very appealing to our predecessors who were caught up in building commerce" (p. 92).

    The 7 day cycle as practiced in Judaism was based on changes made within the Roman counting cycle. The Romans inherited the Etruscan 8 day week known as the Nundial cycle. Sometime between 45 B.C.E. and 19 C.E. the 8th day was dropped and the Romans shifted to the 7 day cycle. According to the 7 day cycle Saturday or Saturn's day was the 1st day of the week and Friday was the 7th day: The 7 day Roman stick calendar found at the Baths of Titus (constructed A.D. 79 – 81) clearly exhibits Saturday as the 1st day of the week and Friday as the 7th. The Romans later changed Saturday from the 1st day to the 7th day out of reverence for the Roman worship of Mithras in which the 7th and highest degree of the “ Father” (Pater) was represented as Saturn.
    The historian Tacitus confirmed the Jewish observance of Saturday Sabbath in relation to Saturn as recorded in the writings of Josephus.

    History of the Jews Book V(Josephus)
    ' It is generally supposed that they rest on the 7th day
    because that gave them[the first] rest from their labors. Besides which they are idol on every 7th year as being pleased with a lazy life. Others say that they do honor thereby Saturn or perhaps the Idaei gave them this part of their religion who as we said above were expelled together with Saturn and of whom as we have been informed were the founders of this nation or else it was because the star Saturn moves in the highest orb…'
    To this day the Jewish(Hebrew) name for the Planet Saturn is Shabbtai meaning the Planet of the Sabbath.

    The calends (Latin: kalendae, "the called") were the first days of each month of the Roman calendar. The Romans assigned these calends to the first day of the month, signifying the start of the new moon cycle. On that day, the pontiffs would announce at the Curia Calabra the number of days until the upcoming month. This word forms the basis of the English word calendar. The original Roman calendar is believed to have been a lunar calendar, which may have been based on one of the Greek lunar calendars. The Curia Calabra was a religious station or templum used for the ritual observation of the new moon in ancient Rome. The Roman calendar was originally lunar. On the Kalends or first day of each month, the pontifex minor occupied the Curia Calabra to await the sighting of the new moon.

    New moon, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
    In non-astronomical contexts, new moon refers to the first visible crescent of the Moon, after conjunction with the Sun.  The first crescent marks the beginning of the month in lunar calendars such as the Muslim calendar, and in lunisolar calendars such as the Hebrew calendar, Hindu calendars, and Buddhist calendar.
     
    Lunisolar calendar, From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
    A lunisolar calendar is a calendar in many cultures whose date indicates both the moon phase and the time of the solar year.
    The Hebrew, Buddhist, Hindu, Burmese, Bengali, and Tibetan calendars, as well as the traditional Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Mongolian and Korean calendars, plus the ancient Hellenic, Coligny, and Babylonian calendars are all lunisolar. Also some of the ancient pre-Islamic calendars in South Arabia followed a lunisolar system.[1] The Chinese, Coligny and Hebrew[2] lunisolar calendars track more or less the tropical year whereas the Buddhist and Hindu lunisolar calendars track the sidereal year. Therefore, the first three give an idea of the seasons whereas the last two give an idea of the position among the constellations of the full moon. The Tibetan calendar was influenced by both the Chinese and Hindu calendars. The Germanic peoples also used a lunisolar calendar before their conversion to Christianity.
    The Islamic calendar is lunar, but not a lunisolar calendar because its date is not related to the sun. The civil versions of the Julian and Gregorian calendars are solar, because their dates do not indicate the moon phase — however, both the Gregorian and Julian calendars include undated lunar calendars that allow them to calculate the Christian celebration of Easter, so both are lunisolar calendars in that respect.
    Hebrew calendar or Jewish calendar,From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:
    The Hebrew or Jewish calendar (הַלּוּחַ הָעִבְרִי, ha'luach ha'ivri) is a lunisolar calendar used today predominantly for Jewish religious observances.
    Until the Tannaitic period (approximately 10–220 CE) the calendar employed a new crescent moon.
    The Hebrew calendar is a lunisolar calendar, meaning that months are based on lunar months, but years are based on solar years. The calendar year features twelve lunar months of twenty-nine or thirty days, with an intercalary lunar month added periodically to synchronize the twelve lunar cycles with the longer solar year. The beginning of each Jewish lunar month is based on the appearance of the new moon. Originally the new lunar crescent had to be observed and certified by two witnesses.

  9. This is a Hebrew Israelite asking you these Questions ,Did you add or take from this Scripture, 1 Corinthians 11,verse 7,For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the Man. these beads on your neck is that a rosary? I want to inform you that the romans couldn't and cannot change the true day of worship from  Saturday to Sunday, the Romans pass laws for Romans, not for us Israelite , the Sabbath through the New covenant is written in the heart Hebrews 8, verse 8 to 10. Shalom.

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