Were the sons of God in Genesis 6 fallen angels? Who were the Nephilim?

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“Were the sons of God in Genesis 6 fallen angels? Who were the Nephilim?”
Dr. Peter Gentry answers in Honest Answers | Episode 81

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  1. He has some good points, but missing others:
    1. The Genesis 6 begins with : “And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,”, so the story telling in Genesis 6 starts with the initial context of the story, the fact of people multiplying, therefore they were more and more daughters; this being a premise of sons of God (Seth descendants) to take as wives daughters of men (Cain's descendants).
    2. The second verse states: "That the sons of God saw(rā'â) the daughters of men that they were fair (ṭôḇ); and they took (lāqaḥ) them wives of all (kol) which they chose.” Here is a parallel with the original sin in Eden, like Eve in Genesis 3:6: "And when the woman saw (rā'â) that the tree was good (ṭôḇ) for food … she took (lāqaḥ)of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat."
    In both instances, in the first fall after creation, and in the second fall after people multiplying, the human sins by focusing his senses to material, perceiving (rā'â) something to be good/pleasant (ṭôḇ) and taking it (lāqaḥ) from all (kol), whatever they choose without discerning.
    3. The third verse states: “And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also/indeed (gam) is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.” Here we see there’s no condemnation of angels, but of men only. In previous verse we see that the initiators of sin are sons of God, if they were angels why are there only men condemned? Here we also have a paralel with Genesis 3, like in Genesis 3 where people are to experience death eventually because of separation of God and sinning and lack of access to tree of life i.e. to God himself, the source of life; the same here God’s spirit won’t dwell in men more than 120 years and eventually we have here the flood. Another thing here is that God states that man is indeed (gam) flesh, the attraction of sons of God to daughter of men confirming the sin of Adam and Eve in the same manner in Eden.
    4. In all the above the key points are: 1) first fall / second fall, 2) see/perceive (rā’â), good/fair/pleasant (ṭôḇ), take (lāqaḥ), from all (kol), choice of men on a material level without discerning, 3) “punishment” – banishment from Eden/ flood, death, separation from God/ God’s spirit dwelling only 120 years in men.
    Also another thing to point as Jews were forbidden to marry non-Jews in OT, the same idea is encountered here of sons of God (Seth descendants) taking as wives daughters of men (Cain’s descendants).
    5. I agree with interpretation about Nephilim.
    6. 2 Peter 2 is not about Genesis 6, but about the fall of Satan. Though the professor states that Peter is trying to encourage his readers from well-known stories, but these stories are not reduced to OT only, there are multiples references in NT outside of OT, like the on of Michael and Satan's dispute over Moses body; then why would Satan's fall be the same case, it should be a know story.
    7. Regarding Jude 6-7: "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.", here Jude means by similar way the improper action, not by nature, both of the people of Sodom and Gomorrha and fallen angels; as angels left their proper dwelling place and acted against their nature of serving God the same way people of Sodom and Gomorrha acted against their natural sexual instinct. Moreover, the professor states that the mention about angels is not about Satan fall, but should be a well-known story from OT; but this is not a valid statement, there are multiple places in NT citing from sources other then OT, one of them even being in same Jude epistole verse 9: "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee." This is not in OT, natheless it seems to be known to that-time reader, the same is true about the Satan's fall.

  2. These nephalim were probably son's of gods, not son's of the God… The nephalim did horrible things and God destroyed them at about the same time lucifer was probably to blame for Abel's death… God called Abel the lamb… So I believe God thought of Abel as a son… So God saved some of Abel's blood for the right time to seek revenge… Just before the birth of Noah.
    And then there was war in Heaven… God had His Angels force the nephalim into human bodies, so they could be destroyed by the flood ( they were spirit's, how could they be destroyed by a flood?)-> when they were forced into human bodies, they were reborn-> weakened and after the flood, God cursed them to live in the ocean's for 70 generations-> this slowed them down, but it didn't destroy them… They are now gog, demons of the water…lucifets descendants became ma gog… Demons from above water… This is how Noah's grandson ma gog had the same name as demons… He was born about six years after the flood and was probably the first to be born on land, thus the name ma gog… So its Apples to oranges… Both born on land but your comparing demons to a person.
    . when lucifer was also reborn, God added some of Abels blood to create His great grandson Noah-> he was a super being… It was said, he glowed so brightly that he lighted the whole house-> dead sea scrolls book of Noah… Noah had taken lucifers abilities (bringer of light) you can follow God's children by this phenomenon of light and by the miracles God's son's produced.
    1) Noah's… His body glowed at ground level.
    2) Moses… Pillar of fire.
    3) Elijah… Many miracles…. Had to be a son of God… And if he wasn't, why did this phenomenon keep rising during his life… Who was the son of God?
    4) Jesus… Star of Bethlehem..
    Each time this phenomenon kept rising… This is what was meant by the blood of the lamb… The lamb of God was Abel and the blood of the lamb meant Abels bloodline… Lucifer was destroyed by the son's of God… God's bloodline had restarted with Noah, Abels son… God's bloodline continues today.
    Lucifers body was probably destroyed at the birth of Noah, but it took many centuries to destroy his spirit… At great cost to God's son's… I think lucifer was their prisoner and lucifer probably had a lot of influence on them as well… This would explain why->
    Noah cursed a whole family line forever…. Noah's name in english gematria is 228, strong's Bible Concordance meaning->
    H228…KJV Usage: headed (2x), hot (1x).
    G228…Definition: From G227; truthful: – true.
    So the definition of Noah's name, is that he was hot headed.
    Moses… Was fixated on death and I believe he lied many time's… If fact I believe he and his brother Aaron were both taken by God, right after they claimed God gave him a list of animal's they could kill… God never added that to the sixth commandment, in fact I've counted sbout 25 ways to believe God has always wanted us to be plant eaters.
    Elijah was taken early for some reason, you can only speculate.
    Jesus… Did he really say he was God?
    I could forgive these son's of God anything… Can you imagine having lucifer living in your head? Even as your prisoner? Anyway, it all fits together… Satan and his nephalim followers were all spirit's… So how would a flood alone have killed them?
    And you can see by the phenomenon of light, that lucifers influence must have lived on through these men, why? They were son's of God…. As the Bible says the blood of the lamb-> the bloodline of the lamb (Abel)

  3. The Bible DOES NOT put the blame of sin on man. It very clearly explains that sin was brought into this world by Satan. Read the book and lean not on your own understanding.

  4. I agree i think sons of god are angels.. maybe the fallen angels which also includes half angel beings like Gilgamesh an the nephelim giants which also includes Goliath

  5. The "sons of god" are angels, as also referred to Job 1:6 One day the sons of God came to present themselves …

    The book of Enoch, which was removed from the Bible as we know it, mentions in full detail, the nephilim as the children of the angels who had left thier estate as "watchers" , in an attempt to help man….

  6. Everyone makes mistakes. But if you are truly pious in devout you might want to learn Hebrew Greek and Aramaic in their original text because you understand that there are somethings they just cannot be translated and the word of God changes every time you read it. If you can’t read it how it was written how can you consider yourself develop?

  7. Of course! We can’t be divisive whenever we speak to someone else with a different viewpoint! This is why people fight! And kill each other over conjecture! If you’ve never listened to a debate. Or been married. You might not understand that in order to call exist with any demographic or alternate viewpoint you have to have a little bit of compromise in your heart and empathy and sympathy and something that could I hope you understand anything besidesComposing your next statement. You have to start listening to other people instead of thinking about what you’re gonna say next. Do you understand that’s very important you should probably remember that

  8. Tell them about the sons of God and the sons of men. And if you have any theological understanding or background you should probably all already told him the correlation between the rig Veda’s and an atvatut versus in avatar

  9. And if you understand Hebrew and beresheet. Then you should probably tell them the correlation with the Numa a leash Samarian creation story that only differs in the calling of Demi gods angels

  10. And to which of the angels has he ever said, “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet”? Are they not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?

    Hebrews 1:13‭-‬14 ESV

    Since begining God created man and woman to have their offspring God never mention that a man will be united with an angel. We couldn't avoid the reality of Angelic being is spirit and they have no flesh.

  11. No, it's a divisive issue if there ever was one. The truth is the truth. Angels can't mate with humans, they are spiritual beings that aren't equipped to mate. Keep it real! Anyone who teaches that way is delusional—under the influence of a lying spirit—demonic doctrine.

  12. There is no way at all it can be proven that the sons of God talked about in Genesis 6 are Angels its just another theory from the minds of men that Angels had sex with humans.

  13. Angels Are Spirits The King James Bible uses the term “sons of God” 11 times in two primary ways. However, it never uses the term to refer to an angelic being. “Who maketh his angels spirits” (Psalm 104:4). Angels are spirits; they are not flesh. They are all around us now, but we cannot see them. They generally remain in their spiritual form and have very little integration in our world. they are here to "minister for them whos shall be heirs of salvation" Hebrews 1:14
    also Angels are not born; they are created. If God wanted more angels, He wouldn’t need to marry them off to humans or other angels to reproduce. He could create them from scratch. Speaking of Lucifer, God said, “The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created (Ezekiel 28:13 NKJV, emphasis added).

    Batchelor, Doug. Who are the Sons of God? . Amazing Facts. Kindle Edition.

  14. Like something out of a fantasy novel. Can you imagine how intimidating it would have been t be a man back when nephilim and fallen angels walked the earth? Having your women willfully or not stolen away from you by these superior beings. I imagine most of the fallen angels were extremely attractive too how on earth could the human men compete?

  15. I respectfully disagree. If you read further along in the Old Testament YHVH commanded His people to totally annihilate those hybrid tribes that dwelled in Canaan.

  16. If angels reproduced with humans, how do you divvy up the offering of salvation to part-human/part-fallen angel? It gets more difficult to answer the further down the hypothetical generation you go. Is anyone else asking the obvious questions? How are so many "bible believing Christians" buying into this illogical thinking? Think, idiots, think!

  17. He did a great job on this. But this is also the Great example of why we should incorporate the book of Enoch into every Sunday school teaching every Christian history lesson and I was treated as one of the Canon scriptures although it technically isn't fully accepted for all the religious Jews but many of the religious use it is and it's not something that causes arguments and fights is just something that one group takes more seriously than the other and that's the way Christians should be with The book of Enoch. The book of enact rounds out Genesis it absolutely gives color and background and enlightenment to what went on in the garden of Eden in a sense before that and up to the time of Noah and how these spiritual beings can manifest themselves and actually interact and teach humans without giving away who and what they are for those who have no discernment very interesting spiritual study. Further if we fully understand how these watchers and the satanic beans that ran amok on the surface of the Earth lived in the lessons we learned in the book then we have an idea of how they exist today in our political system and our public square and they do exist and they are here. In my opinion I believe crescendum as a whole in unison should take another shot in deciding whether or not the book of Enoch should be canonized or remain the way it is but it should be a debate and open debate.

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